Thursday, September 07, 2006

 

Hugo's Helping Out Alaskan Natives

When Hugo Chavez says he intends to use his country's oil to help others, he means it:

It's a well known fact that the cost of living in rural Alaska is high. The cost of living, of transporting goods and paying for heating oil can be astronomical. Some Alaska Native villages are going to get some help this winter. The assistance will come from Citgo Petroleum, based in Houston, Texas. The parent company is in Venezuela. Approximately 12,100 households will benefit from the 1.2 million gallons of heating that Citgo has donated. In order to qualify 80 percent of the community must be Alaska Native. "So if the community meets that criteria, plus or minus 5 percent, then those are the communities that are targeted in the pilot year for approximately 100 gallons of heating oil per head of household," said Steve Sumida, the Deputy Director of the Alaska Inter-Tribal Council. Officials have been moving on the fast track. The Alaska Inter-Tribal Council, which is administering the program, has been working non-stop with regional non profit corporations for the past week.
There you go.


Comments:
You know, people often ask me “Tom, why do you mock lefty’s instead of having a meaningful debate with them”. I submit this post as all the answer anyone needs.

I don’t think you’re stupid, but the deliberate obtuseness demonstrated by this bit of lunacy does make you a volunteer moron.

I posted two articles about Chavez because Lopez Obrador has repeatedly said the two are fast friends and that he (Obrador) admires Chavez.

Of course he does, they are both wanna-be communist dictators!

Now Chavez goes public with his power play, and funds it on the backs of his country’s financial viability which of course sends an already volatile economy into a downward spiral…and what is your response?

You post a text-book perfect example of the old ComIntern’s tactics in action in a muddle headed attempt to blow smoke on the facts.

In case it really did allude your comprehension, this buffoonery is exactly what the article I posted earlier was all about…Chavez using the natural and financial resources of Venezuela to finance his re-election campaign long enough for him to take complete control of the country for the remainder of his miserable life.

Have a look at Venezuela’s GDP.

Notice anything funny? Here, let me help…the GDP is directly tied to the oil market. As a result, their economy looks like a larger version of the gas price sign at the local Super America.

That is because Chavez has no interest in using the nationalized oil industry profits to help his people diversify the economy…he’s too busy spending those profits to keep himself in office.

As to the speculation that was previously posted regarding Obrador's penchant for business: Can you name me one, just one country that has a planned economy (socialist or communist) that was successful? (Pleeease pick Norway!)

If I have not mistakenly given you the benefit of doubt regarding your intelligence, or lack thereof, you must admit that this is a recipe for disaster.

I’m going to choose to ignore this loony post and see if you can defend your position with any clarity of thought.

There *you* go.
 
And so Swiftee posts proof that he's completely incapable of reading or understanding a graph.

If one looks at the graph closely, what one sees is that in 1999, prior to Chavez, GDP was stagnant. There had been a few good years, but GDP growth was tightly tied to oil, and since oil prices were low, that made for an economy with weak growth.

In April, 2002, the anti-Chavistas (basically, oil companies and the wealthy) began sabotaging oil production and a coup against Chavez was exexuted with US direction and support. In December, PDVSA essentially shut down production. The graph shows a catastrophic collapse of the economy, led by oil revenues.

The Venezuelan people were not fooled as to who had caused this damage, and they retained Chavez in office by his highest margin, 59% according to an election monitored by international observers.

And so the economy started to recover.

But the graph shows something interesting, invisible to ideologues and illiterates. In the last ca. 2 years, oil has ceased to lead economic growth. Instead, the non-oil economy is responsible for all of the very comfortable ca. 10% growth rate.

What that means is that Venezuela is not just enjoying a great economy, it's doing so without relying on oil.

Speaking of people who are blind but imagine they can see.
 
In the last ca. 2 years, oil has ceased to lead economic growth. Instead, the non-oil economy is responsible for all of the very comfortable ca. 10% growth rate.

What that means is that Venezuela is not just enjoying a great economy, it's doing so without relying on oil.


And guess what? That was one of Chavez's goals, to grow Venezuela's economy to the point where it wasn't All About The Oil.

And here's the best part: Chavez had wanted to wean Venezuela off of dependence on oil-selling because their conventional reserves only will last them another two decades or so, and the country's heavy-oil reserves weren't economically feasible to tap. But with George W. Bush oh-so-helpfully boosting the price of crude for Chavez (a friend of mine with oil-trader buddies on Wall Street says that around $38 of the price of each barrel of oil is directly attributable to the invasion and occupation of Iraq), suddenly it's very profitable for Chavez and his overseas partners to develop the heavy-oil reserves, of which there are enough to supply the world at current consumption rates for the next century. So now Chavez can truly afford to give away or barter the conventional oil -- and do things like pay off Argentina's crushing debts to the IMF, a move which probably saved Argentina from total ruin -- because Venezuela's economy doesn't need it any more. What's more, he now has the heavy-crude oil as his ace in the hole.

No wonder Swiftee's so upset.
 
Let's see if a couple of facts can clear out the smoke.

Chuck ups with:

"In April, 2002, the anti-Chavistas (basically, oil companies and the wealthy) began sabotaging oil production and a coup against Chavez was exexuted with US direction and support."

If I'm not mistaken, CHAVEZ was all in favor of coups back in '92...in fact unless I'm mistaken, and I'm not, CHAVEZ was sent to prison for leading this coup.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, and I'm not, the country's oil industry collapsed due to a strike which was supported by, you know, the vast majority of the people of Venezuela because of Chavez's firing of key executives to seat his own cronies.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, and I'm not, Chavez has been tinkering with the constitution since the day he took control of the government...his latest agenda is merely the culmination of a well planned plot to become the leader for life.

It's ironic that he's chosen to use the exact same method to seize unrestricted power that Hitler did, don't you think?

Fifth Republic Movement \ Third Reich....coincendence? Me thinks not.

It's also ironic that the recall vote that maintained Chavez has been called into question by several reliable sources worldwide, and yet I have not heard a peep out of any of you denouncing that travesty.

I could go on and on of course.

There's no lack of evidence of Chavez's corruption, but I think we all got the picture.

You're free to champion leftist dictators...this is America. I just think you'd be doing yourselves a favor by admitting your love of authoritarian communist government.
 
I'll take that as an admission that you realize you made a horrendous mistake in reading the graph and have to try to cover the exposure of your intellectual inadequacy with a display of moral inadequacy, i.e., calling names.

But of course the strike was not supported by the Venezuelan people, a fact that a person of minimal intelligence would have realized on seering he beat the recall by an even larger margin than he won election.

As for seeking to achieve power by a coup, only an absolute moral prostitute would compare Chavez to Hitler for using extralegal means to seek power while failing to compare Bush to Hitler for doing exactly the same to Chavez.

As with any prostitute, all that remains to learn is what your price is.
 
"to cover the exposure of your intellectual inadequacy with a display of moral inadequacy, i.e., calling names."

"As with any prostitute, all that remains to learn is what your price is."

Do you have any idea what an asshat you appear?

The recall vote was held on August 15, 2004.

European Union observers did not oversee the elections, saying too many restrictions were put on their participation by the Chávez administration.

Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates (PSB) exit poll predicted that Chávez would lose by 20%, whereas the election results showed him to have won by 20%.

Schoen commented, "I think it was a massive fraud".

US News and World Report offered an analysis of the polls, indicating "very good reason to believe that the (Penn Schoen) exit poll had the result right, and that Chávez's election officials — and Carter and the American media — got it wrong".

Doesn't really matter though does it..the victors get to write the history.

Heil Chavez!

Heil Obrador!
 
You'll get absolutely zero respect from me until you admit that you completely misread the GDP figures.

You deserve none.

As for the election of 2004, you've combined lies with distortions and ad hominem to produce what babies produce in their diapers. You didn't link what you were quoting, because the fraud would have been obvious. It was not US News that said these things. It was right-wing flak Michael Barone/

You only know what The Party tells you to know.

But if we listen to a Carter Center observer, we hear something entirely different:

The opposition's suspicions are based on three things. First, an exit poll supervised by Penn, Schoen, and Berland Associates (PSB), an American polling firm, and conducted by volunteers from Súmate, an opposition civic group...

OOPS! The poll was conducted by Hugo Chavez's OPPOSITION!

Wonder if that might have influenced their findings?

They tested the machines, they did a partial "hot audit" (an immediate hand recount), they did an extensive recount, and so on. Unlike in Mexico, Chavez did not interfere in recounting.

She has plenty of criticism for Chavez. But she is not a flak or a tool, and so she is not forced to pretend that the oversight of the election was in any way inadequate or that there was fraud.

In the US, when the exit polls predict a Democratic win and we are denied an open recount, we are called names because we deny that Bush was elected. In Mexico, where the exit polls predict a Lopez Obrador win and we are denied a recount, we are called names for denying that Calderon was elected. But in Venezuela, when the only exit polls predicting a Chavez defeat are very obviously cooked and a recount is permitted and shows a Chavez win, we are called names for saying he won.

You're a whore for The Party

You are exactly what you claim to hate.

I'll be happy to say that in every response to you until you start acting like an adult by admitting your errors.

Whore.
 
Bravo to Hugo Chavez for helping Alaska Natives out.
 
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